Legislature(2005 - 2006)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/21/2006 03:00 PM House FINANCE


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SB 236 AK HOUSING FINANCE CORP DIVIDEND
Moved CSSB 236(FIN) Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= HB 150 LICENSING RADIOLOGIC TECHNICIANS
Moved CSHB 150(FIN) Out of Committee
= HB 334 MUNICIPAL PROPERTY TAX DEFERRAL/EXEMPTION
Moved CSHB 334(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 334                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating to an exemption from and deferral of                                                                       
     municipal property taxes for certain types of                                                                              
     deteriorated property.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm MOVED to  RESCIND previous  action taken                                                                   
on  adopting  Amendment #1,  #24-LS1353\A.3,  Cook,  2/14/06.                                                                   
There being NO OBJECTION, action was rescinded.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm  MOVED  to   ADOPT  Amendment  #2,  #24-                                                                   
LS1353\A.4, Cook, 2/15/04.  Vice Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JIM POUND,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  JAY  RAMRAS, spoke  to the                                                                   
amendment.  He explained that  following discussions with the                                                                   
municipalities and  other governmental members,  the language                                                                   
of  #1 was  simplified.    Essentially, it  would  accomplish                                                                   
giving  control  to the  municipality  for  what and  how  to                                                                   
accomplish the deferrals, Page  1, Line 12, deleting language                                                                   
and inserting a  new section.  The new language  will provide                                                                   
finality  to  developers  trying  to  restore  the  buildings                                                                   
through the application process.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:35:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze asked if  the Fairbanks local  government                                                                   
was in support  of the legislation.   Mr. Pound  thought they                                                                   
were.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:36:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker acknowledged  that  with the  proposed                                                                   
amendment,   the  bill  could   accomplish  "something"   but                                                                   
questioned  if it  would accomplish  what was  intended.   He                                                                   
explained  that   the  amendment   clarifies  in   Statute  a                                                                   
requirement regarding  when a municipality authorizes  one of                                                                   
the  tax  deferral  activities  that they  must  establish  a                                                                   
schedule of dates certain to trigger a tax payment.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pound said that was correct.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:37:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker advised  that this Legislature would be                                                                   
proscribing future  legislatures criteria  that might  not be                                                                   
appropriate when  approaching the  municipality.   He worried                                                                   
about  forcing  a  date  limiting  the  criteria  to  a  date                                                                   
certain,  which   would  compromise  the  abilities   of  the                                                                   
municipalities to  pursue that type transaction.   He thought                                                                   
the  legislation  was  appropriate   for  only  one  specific                                                                   
transaction and not sufficiently  broad.  Mr. Pound said they                                                                   
attempted  to keep the  language as  simple as possible,  but                                                                   
agreed some cases could change that.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:39:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker   stated  that  the   amendment  would                                                                   
prohibit  such  latitude, wondering  if  that  was truly  the                                                                   
intent.  Mr. Pound noted the developers  want a date certain.                                                                   
He added  the latitude  would be  available to the  developer                                                                   
and the municipality.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:40:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker voiced opposition  with the Legislature                                                                   
dictating  criteria  to  all  municipalities  throughout  the                                                                   
State.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:40:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula agreed  with Representative  Hawker.                                                                   
She recommended adding  language to the Amendment  on Line 5,                                                                   
inserting something like "unless  otherwise agreed to by both                                                                   
parties".     She  thought that  language  could provide  the                                                                   
option to negotiate out.  Mr. Pound agreed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:41:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  asked  if  it  would  accomplish  the                                                                   
sponsor's  goal  and  provide   latitude  preserved  for  the                                                                   
municipalities,  by amending  Line 5  to read, "deferred  tax                                                                   
payments due  as specific  by the  municipality".   With that                                                                   
language,  the date would  not always  be the trigger  point.                                                                   
Other criteria could be appropriate.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:42:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JAY RAMRAS, SPONSOR,  noted appreciation  for                                                                   
that  perspective.   He  asked  an  example for  a  practical                                                                   
application.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  stressed  that  he was  not  offering                                                                   
advise   as    a   Certified    Public   Accountant    (CPA).                                                                   
Representative  Ramras noted  he would  support the  language                                                                   
offered by Representative Hawker.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Meyer  requested  that   Ms.  Cunningham   testify                                                                   
regarding the proposed changes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SUZANNE  CUNNINGHAM,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   KEVIN  MEYER,                                                                   
commented   on  the  concern.     The   primary  reason   for                                                                   
introduction of the bill was that  there was vagueness in the                                                                   
statute regarding when the deferrals  and taxes would have to                                                                   
be paid  to the municipality.   Amendment #2  does accomplish                                                                   
the  intent  of  making certain  and  putting  language  into                                                                   
statute that the  tax payments become due on the  date set by                                                                   
the  municipality   at  the  time  of  the   deferral.    The                                                                   
municipalities, ultimately, are  the ones that chose to enact                                                                   
the ordinance  under the authority  of the statute,  so there                                                                   
is flexibility defining when the taxes are do.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:45:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  requested that  the  sponsor and  Ms.                                                                   
Cunningham discuss  the proposed language  amending Amendment                                                                   
#2.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer advised  that Amendment #2 would  be set aside                                                                   
and that the Committee move onto Amendment #3.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:45:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer MOVED  to  ADOPT Amendment  #3.   Vice  Chair                                                                   
Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cunningham explained that  the amendment would delete the                                                                   
language:   "An  exemption  or deferral  may  not be  granted                                                                   
under this subsection after July  1, 2010", Page 2, Lines 12-                                                                   
13.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:48:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, Amendment #3 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       4:48:27 PM                                                                                                     
RECONVENE:     4:54:10 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:54:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker MOVED to  ADOPT a conceptual  language                                                                   
change to Amendment #2, deleting  on Page 1, Line 5, "one the                                                                   
date set" and inserting, "as specified";  Page 1 Line 12, and                                                                   
deleting "include a proposed date  that" and insert, "specify                                                                   
when".   There being NO OBJECTION,  Amendment #2 was amended.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula pointed  out  that now  there is  no                                                                   
escape clause  for the municipality  and the party  to decide                                                                   
anything different,  other than the date of  the tax payment.                                                                   
She maintained that there are  other mechanisms to enter into                                                                   
some kind  of an agreement over  the properties.   She voiced                                                                   
concern and asked the sponsor if that was what he wanted.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  thought that concern was  addressed in                                                                   
the  conceptual  amendment.    In the  amendment,  the  local                                                                   
authority is  specifying what  the payment triggers  will be.                                                                   
He stressed it does not mean time  or date certain.  When the                                                                   
local authority  provides the "when"  clause, it would  be up                                                                   
to them to determine  it and leave the decision  making power                                                                   
with the municipality.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:58:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ramras agreed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula argued  that it does not really mean,                                                                   
"When something  happens" and  is not necessarily  a specific                                                                   
time.   Additionally,  she was  concerned  about locking  the                                                                   
municipalities into those conditions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:59:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pound suggested  language, Page 1, Line  5, inserting "or                                                                   
on a date established by an occurrence of the events".                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  advised  that the  original  language                                                                   
change satisfied him.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION to the  amended Amendment #2, it was                                                                   
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster MOVED to  REPORT CS HB 334 (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CS HB  334 (FIN)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "no                                                                   
recommendation" and  with zero note  #1 by the  Department of                                                                   
Commerce,  Community &  Economic Development  and a  new zero                                                                   
note by the Office of Management and Budget.                                                                                    

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